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me. All boots are listed in chronological order, and all
are on Audio CD-R unless I say otherwise. All dates are written
in the European style, as in day/month/year. Click on the
text links below to scroll directly to the entry you're interested
Summary and Menu
Studio, '72-'73 (Studio)
Club, 19/9/72 (London)
at the Marquee Club, 19/9/72 (London)
in Dublin, 28/9/72 (National Stadium, Dublin)
Oval, 30/9/72 (Kennington Oval, London)
Oval (complete), 30/9/72 (London)
Real Aberdeen, 4/10/72 (Music Hall, Aberdeen)
'72, 11/10/72 (St. George's Hall, Bradford)
(alternate), 11/10/72 (St. George's
'72, 29/10/72 (Odeon Theatre, Lewisham)
Dreams, 18/11/72 (Imperial College, London)
5, 18/11/72 (Imperial College, London)
25, 18/11/72 (Imperial College, London)
Hall, 17 (13!)/12/72 (FAKE--Leicester 25/2/73)
Philharmonic Hall '72,
13/12/72 (NYC, New York)
'73, 15/1/73 (Stadthalle, Heidelberg Germany)
'73 (HW06), 15/1/73 (Stadthalle)
Italy, 20/1/73 (Reggio Emilia)
(PRRP020), 20 & 22/1/73 (Palasports,
22/1/73 (Palasport, Rome Italy)
Theatre, 9/2/73 (London)
Theatre (upgrade), 9/2/73 (London)
9/2/73 (Rainbow Theatre)
'73, 12/2/73 (Guildhall, Plymouth)
'73, 16/2/73 (Green's Playhouse, Glasgow)
Playhouse '73, 16/2/73 (Glasgow, Scotland)
'73, 17/2/73 (City Hall, Sheffield)
'73 (SR06), 17/2/73 (City Hall, Sheffield)
by the Watcher, 21/2/73 (University Great Hall, York)
of You are Going to Die, 24 & 25/2/73
Pressing, 24-25/2/73 (Free Trade & De Montfort Halls)
at Leicester and Manchester (TM), 24-25/2/73
Quebec City, 3/3/73 (Grand Theatre, Quebec City)
'73, 3/3/73 (Grand Theatre, Quebec)
Radio '73, 7/5/73 (Olympia Theatre, Paris)
Festival '73, 26/8/73 (Reading)
01 Intro: Dancing With the Moonlit Knight (second
02 Only Your Love (rehearsal)(4:10)
03 Only Your Love (finished version)(3:10)
04 Master of Time (3:07)
05 Happy the Man (clean mix)(3:07)
06 The Reaper (7:39)
07 For Present Friends (5:10)
08 A Child's Song (3:33)
09 After the Ordeal (4:29)
10 Silver Song (rehearsal)(4:00)
11 Silver Song (finished version)(4:16)
12 Outro: Dancing With the Moonlit Knight (second part)(1:43)
Type/Quality: Studio/Good-Very Good
Comments: This is a rather motley compilation of songs
from the year range given above (I think). Actually it's basically
just a bunch of Anthony Phillips solo songs with a few real
Genesis numbers mixed in. The only actual Genesis tunes here
are the bookend bits at the beginning and end, "Happy
the Man" and "After the Ordeal." If you stretch
it, you might include "Silver Song," as it was originally
written when Ant was a member of Genesis. "Only Your
Love" is at best a Rutherford/Phillips composition, and
it was not recorded until late 1973 (the same goes for "Silver
Song," even though it was written around '69). For other
versions of "Silver Song" with "Only Your Love,"
see Cryme on
the Nursery Cryme page and this
compilation disc. For other versions of just "Silver
Song," see my Worcester
'83 show on the Mama page and this
compilation. Keep in mind that this Phil-vocal version of
"Silver Song" has apparently finally been released
officially as a bonus track on the re-issue of Ant's Geese
and the Ghost album.
I don't know when these Anthony Phillips songs were recorded,
so I'm just going by the info I was given with the year range.
"Master of Time" is also a bonus track on Ant's
first album--this version is shorter and rougher. "Reaper"
is a long guitar piece, as is "For Present Friends."
It does not seem to have any real relation to the Genesis
song "For Absent Friends" besides its title. In
fact, I have learned that this song is better known by the
title "Field of Eternity," which is the name under
which it appeared on Ant's first Private Parts and Pieces
collection. There is supposedly a bit from "Pacidy"
in it, about two minutes in. I don't know whether "For
Present Friends" was a working title or whether it was
named that by bootleggers to confuse people into thinking
it was actually a Genesis song.
"A Child's Song" has words, sung by Ant. "After
the Ordeal" is a very finished version of the song. The
"Silver Song" rehearsal track I don't believe I
have anywhere else--the vocals are rougher on it than on the
finished version. The "Moonlit Knight" tracks are
from the haunting ending instrumental section of that song.
For more of this type of material see my Selling
England by the Session show. For a compiled list of
all my studio outtakes, demos, etc., please see the top of
my Compilations/Misc. page.
The quality throughout is not fantastic for studio stuff,
but it could be a lot worse. There are major hiccups in the
finale to "Only Your Love (rehearsal);" I have this
track in better condition on Cryme.
There is also a major hiccup in "After the Ordeal"--the
recording stops aburptly, there is a considerable pause, and
then it starts up again at a spot a little before where it
cut off. Again, this is not really a Genesis album; it's much
more an Anthony Phillips thing.
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1 Watcher of the Skies (7:00)
2 Can-Utility and the Coastliners (5:55)
3 The Musical Box (10:09)
4 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (7:19)
5 The Knife (8:48)
Comments: (I have an alternate version of this show
below.) This one circulates a lot, but it is labelled incorrectly
as "Music Hall, Aberdeen." Not Aberdeen, but the
Marquee Club in London. In fact the earliest existing boot
from the Foxtrot tour. Sound level is low and muffled,
but not so bad as some recordings from the previous tour.
It should be noted that all of the bits in between the songs
(such as the interminable tuning of instruments and Pete's
stories) have been removed, and that the songs cut abruptly
into one another, sometimes at the expense of the first one
or two seconds of the next song, and always preceded by a
strange sort of zooming "pong" sound. Also, the
first two tracks have been tracked incorrectly; the last few
seconds of "Watcher" are at the beginning of "Can-Utility."
Unless you want to skip to the second track though, you'll
never notice it--and even when you do, it's only a minor annoyance.
All right, here is my horror story for this one, one of the
reasons why I don't like to put labels on CDs. Played this
one in my car's CD player, liked it, got home, parked, stopped
the CD, hit the eject button. It didn't come out. I hit it
again. Didn't come out. I tried turning on the car, turning
off the car, turning the stereo off and on, jamming things
into the slot of the CD player. Eventually I pried out the
CD with the stalk from a pair of sunglasses (!), but in the
process of rescuing it, I irreparably scratched the surface.
The victimized track was "The Musical Box;" a huge
portion of the middle was all messed up. Fortunately I was
eventually able to get a replacement for this track and reburn
the complete show; the new "Box" is slightly louder
and better quality than the rest of the disc. Let this be
a lesson to you all; be careful putting bootlegs into strange
CD players, especially if they (the CDs, that is) have labels
at the Marquee Club
1 Watcher of the Skies (7:04)
2 Can-Utility and the Coastliners (5:34)
3 The Musical Box (9:37)
4 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (7:07)
5 The Knife (8:45)
Comments: This is another version of the Marquee Club
show. This one was misdated as November 10, 1972. There was
a Marquee Club gig on November 11, 1972, but this disc isn't
even that--it's just another version of the 19/9/72 gig. Actually
it sounds almost exactly the same as my other version, above,
zooming "pong" and all. The tracking of the first
two songs is more correct here, and there might be a little
bit more power to the sound--I'm giving it the benefit of
the doubt by punching the quality rating up to a "fair."
Anyways, it's nice to have a full version of this all from
the same source. This has been transferred directly from a
vinyl boot, so there are some small pops and such that are
not on my other version. This one may also be a bit faster
speedwise, if the track times are any indication--I didn't
notice that it sounded too fast, but...
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Live in Dublin
1 Watcher of the Skies (9:03)
2 Can-Utility and the Coastliners (6:30)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (8:26)
4 The Musical Box (11:50)
5 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (7:15)
Comments: Played at the National Stadium in Dublin.
This is an interesting show because it marks the first time
Pete ever wore a costume on stage--it was the red dress and
fox mask. You can't hear the costume, but it is there. Also
rare is the actual story for "Watcher of the Skies,"
a song Pete almost never told a story for. Most of the stories
here are rather short. Unfortunately this recording has a
lot of noise on it. It's blanketed with little pops, static,
and clicks. The applause from the audience is much louder
than the music--fortunately the audience does not clap during
the songs, only between them. "Hogweed" has a somewhat
extended intro, during which Pete says that it stars Vincent
Price and that it comes to you courtesy of the Hogweed Youth
Movement. It was Pete's usual custom around this time to introduce
the song right before they started playing it by yelling its
title rather loudly--in this case he really screams it, so
much so that it sounds like the taper recoiled in horror (though
that's probably just the automatic volume control). At around
2 minutes remaining the recording begins to sound rather sickly--it
then begins to sound VERY sickly, then cuts out altogether
and the "Mighty Hogweed is avenged" section of the
song is missing. But it comes back in for the end.
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1 The Knife (9:49)
2 The Fountain of Salmacis (8:22)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:01)
4 Watcher of the Skies (7:54)
5 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (7:53)
Comments: A fairly early Foxtrot show here,
played at the Kennington Oval in London (I have a more complete
version, with intros and an extra song, below). The ordering
here is very strange--I used to think this was because it
had been mixed up after the fact, but I'm now quite sure this
was the actual order of the set. One of my reasons for thinking
this is that this was a special gig; the official site labels
it as the "Melody maker Poll Awards Concert, supporting
Emerson, Lake and Palmer with Wishbone Ash and Focus."
So Genesis were playing with other bands and, as they did
during the Reading Festival of this year, played a special
reordered set. In fact this set is very unique. (BTW, Genesis
were voted "brightest hope, number 6" in the poll.)
The speed may be just a tad slow, and all of the intros have
been utterly removed, except one thing Peter says before "Friday"
(he claims that the song is a "Foxtrot"--ha ha).
The songs have no real cuts or errors, and the sound quality
could be worse. As I say, the ordering is strange, but the
songs are all here (except "Musical Box;" see next
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Kennington Oval (complete)
01 The Knife (10:43)
02 Intro: Salmacis (1:04)
03 The Fountain of Salmacis (8:55)
04 Intro: Friday (1:03)
05 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:01)
06 Intro: Watcher (0:47)
07 Watcher of the Skies (8:37)
08 Intro: Box (1:27)
09 The Musical Box (11:36)
10 Intro: Hogweed (0:27)
11 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (7:52)
Comments: At the Kennington Oval Cricket Stadium in
London, the bootleg of this performance comes in various versions.
This version is different from all the other ones, because
I made it myself out of two other versions (you'll notice
I got quite a bit track-happy on it as well--not sure why,
as I'm usually against breaking things up into so many tracks).
My first version, above, was good but was missing all of the
intros--and, as I realized upon receiving my second version,
it was also missing an entire song: "The Musical Box." Other
traders have multiple versions of the show with or without
"Box," some misdated. The second version that I got had all
of the song intros and in between stuff, which had been edited
out of my first version. However, the audio quality of the
second one, which had been transferred from an old tape, was
considerably worse. I noticed a possible slowness on my first
version, but the second one is definitely and perceptibly
slower, and also has other major speed problems throughout.
Pitch drops, speed shifting, wavery sound, call it what you
like. It was also duller and lower in volume. Finally, though
the first version had the full song, the second version's
"Friday" was cut a good minute before it ended.
Knowing then that I couldn't live with the second version
as it was, or the first version which was missing bits, I
set about to create a hybrid version which took the songs
from the first version and mixed them with the intros and
"Box" from the second version. The result is this bootleg.
It's very surprising how adding the stories back in will change
one's perception of a show. I had always thought this a raucous
performance with lots of energy and, I presumed, a willing
audience. But the in between stuff seems to show that the
audience was surprisingly limp and unenthusiastic, and that
Pete had difficulty in doing anything with them. I think this
was because this concert (as I have said in the previous entry)
was a Melody Maker Poll Awards concert, and was not
necessarily full of big Genesis fans. The odd circumstances
of the gig do result in a unique reordering of the standard
set, and Pete does tell an interesting array of rare and curious
stories. He calls "The Knife," that night's choice for set
opener (possibly one of only two times it ever enjoyed that
position in the set), a "Latin American dance number." I think
there was some concern by the band or the management involved
about the ability of people to dance to their songs, since
Pete later claims that "Get 'em Out by Friday" is a foxtrot.
Pete tells the semi-standard "the Gods were bored" story
before "Salmacis," but his story for "Friday" involves a pigeon
flying in circles inside an empty tube station--though he
ends the story by saying that the song is about "two old ladies
from Islington." I've never heard this story before. Especially
rare is the story Pete tells for "Watcher of the Skies," which
was almost always the opening number and thus very rarely
got any kind of introduction. The "Watcher" is described as
"The great god Coca-Cola." The story for "Box" is the somewhat
rarer version which involves Henry's father having his dead
relatives in glass cases in his house. It also continues on
to the part of the story where Henry is destroyed by the nurse.
The story for "Hogweed" is Pete's standard spiel about the
House of Hammer, the Hogweed Youth Movement, Vincent Price
and Christopher Lee. Before "Hogweed" Pete admits to the audience
that there's a problem with the power (as usual), which results
in a lot of tuning from the band members. There is generally
a lot of tuning going on between all the numbers here, perhaps
more than usual. It's nice to have these stories, because
they add so much more flavor to the performance and Pete does
tell them well. He is unfortunately and ignominiously forced
to make a lame announcement to the audience, though, right
before the intro for "Box"--lending an ironic and unwelcome
air of reality to the show. Some guy's brother was supposed
to meet him at the side of the stage to get his tickets. Pete
remarks rather bitterly, "It's nice to see someone's enjoying
us, anyway." It's almost as bad as Pete having to read off
a license plate number for a car in the parking lot with its
The sound is really not that bad for a Foxtrot boot.
The intros and "Box" are unfortunately a tad duller than the
rest of the music, but "Box" is fortunately one of the songs
from the second version of this show which is not too badly
affected by the speed variations. The first version's quality
is better, as I said before. The bass is very heavy on both
versions (both versions come from the same source recording),
and there are some rumblings and possibly bumps on there.
At times it sounds as though there is a wind blowing into
the microphone. Both versions are missing the very end of
the intro for "Hogweed" and the very beginning seconds of
"Hogweed"--the part where Pete probably screamed the song's
title. Better than most audience shows from this tour, and
the rare set makes it a valuable part of my collection. Some
added trivia: this gig came not very long at all before Genesis
would start their Charisma bands tour with Lindisfarne, et
al, and be forced to shorten their set to four numbers. Not
long after this started, on 7 October, the album Foxtrot
was actually released.
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The Real Aberdeen
1 Intro/One-Handed Drum Solo (3:20)
2 Watcher of the Skies (9:05)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (8:54)
4 Intro: Box (0:47)
5 The Musical Box (10:16)
6 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (9:49)
Comments: At the Music Hall in Aberdeen, this is a
curious show in a couple of ways. First of all, it's the REAL
recording from a date often attributed to the earlier Marquee
Club gig of 19 September. Secondly, it has the ignominious
distinction of actually beginning with the trusty "One-Handed
Drum Solo" by Phil Collins. It's a fairly short solo
for its kind, with lots of helpful descriptions from Pete
(pretty much the same things he said in the more famous Watford
Town Hall gig of the previous tour). The technical problem,
whatever it was, is remedied and they move into the regular
set. This is a very short set, but I believe it is complete.
This recording features lots of reverb and is muddy, making
the intros difficult to understand, but it could be worse.
It also has a sort of background roar, similar to the "ocean"
you hear when putting a seashell up to your ear. On these
older audience recordings though the audience is never very
intrusive, which is a plus. Also there don't seem to be any
cuts or errors in this show, just the overall muddiness.
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1 Watcher of the Skies (8:07)
2 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:44)
3 The Musical Box (12:28)
4 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:59)
Comments: (I have an alternate version of this recording--see
next entry.) At St. George's Hall in Bradford. The Foxtrot
tour is not one known for its good quality boots, and
while this particular recording might be considered sub-par
were it from the '80s, in this context it's actually one of
the better ones. This show is complete, has no errors (other
than an overall lack of incredibly good sound), and Peter's
vocals are fairly clear and discernible. True, it's a short
set, but this is the kind of set they were playing at this
point in their history.
The entire recording has a very impressive level of hiss,
which is hard to ignore unless you have a very good imagination
or listen to it in a very rapidly-moving vehicle (which I
recommend--as long as you obey all traffic laws). As an added
treat, it features a fairly unique and very rare version of
the intro story for "Musical Box," which totally
ignores the Henry/croquet plot and instead deals with one
Uncle Bill who gets more than he bargained for after leafing
through a "dirty" magazine (a very similar and possibly
even better version is told at the gig at Imperial College,
two entries down). Also before "Hogweed" Pete provides
his usual stuff about the song being brought to you by the
house of Hammer (a famous British horror movie production
company), Vincent Price and the Hogweed Youth Movement. This
is a good show.
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Bradford '72 (alternate)
1 Watcher of the Skies (8:56)
2 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:35)
3 The Musical Box (12:39)
4 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (9:28)
Comments: At St. George's Hall in Bradford. This version
of the recording comes from a trader who acquired his copy
from a Japanese source that was supposedly first generation.
It seems clear that both of my versions at least come from
the same master audience recording. This one is different
from my previous version, first and foremost in that it does
not have any of the very loud hiss of the previous version.
It's possible this is a sign of its being low generation,
but the more likely reason is that it has been digitally dehissed--the
volume here is lower than in the other and Peter's intros
are harder to hear. I also detected some scratchiness on the
high end. However it is undeniably nice to have a clear-sounding
recording, and this version does in fact have a little more
to it than the other: at the very beginning of track one you
can hear Phil ask the audience, "Is everybody happy?"
In the first version the track starts after he has said this.
There is also a bit more cheering to be heard at the end of
the disc. I can't decide which version I like better, which
is why I have given them identical quality ratings.
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1 Watcher of the Skies (9:01)
2 Twilight Alehouse (9:25)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:18)
4 The Musical Box (11:44)
5 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (incomplete)(6:21)
Comments: At the Odeon Theatre in Lewisham, this is
not a particularly memorable bootleg. It features a look into
one of the relatively earlier sets of this tour, and a rare
appearance of "Twilight Alehouse," which was not
a regular number anymore (and in fact appears in only one
other bootleg from this tour--see Hogweed
6, below). It is probably the last of Genesis' Charisma
tour with other bands of the label, which lasted for most
of October of this year and forced the band to keep its set
down to a short length.
There's a lot of talking in the opening of this recording,
mainly coming from one annoying woman. However once the music
begins (after Pete has come on and introduced the first number),
chatter becomes totally inaudible. The sound remains quite
muddy, and is probably too fast. There is a high-pitched hiss
running in the background. All of Pete's intros are very hard
to decipher. He makes use of the "Phil's triangle"
gimmick before "Alehouse," and talks about the two
old ladies before "Friday." He also tells the "dirty"
story before "Musical Box," which I describe better
in the next and previous entries--in them I suggest that this
is a very rare version of the story, but as I have now found
it in three different gigs from this tour, it may be time
for me to stop saying that. There is a cut between the story
and the actual song, but nothing seems to be missing of either--the
volume seems to come in louder when the recording cuts back
in, but the recording quickly reveals that nothing has improved.
The story for "Hogweed" is the standard one, where
Pete mentions the House of Hammer and the Hogweed Youth Movement.
He does not, as was normally his wont, scream the title of
the song before it begins. The song is cut before it is done--it
stops not long before the "Mighty Hogweed is avenged"
section. Anyone wanting fairly good examples of gigs from
this period in the tour will be happier with the shows above
and below this one--Lewisham is for completists only!
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1 Watcher of the Skies (11:42)
2 The Musical Box (11:35)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (8:57)
4 Supper's Ready (24:27)
5 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (9:19)
6 The Knife (8:53)
Comments: (I have multiple remasters of this material
below.) At the Imperial College in London, this one has the
earliest existing live recording of "Supper's Ready."
(For your information, the first time the song was played
live was 10 November at Brunel University in Uxbridge.) There's
some trouble at the beginning of this one it seems, as there's
a lot of messing around/crowd noise before Pete finally does
a short intro for "Watcher" and they go to it. The
sound quality is surprisingly good for an audience boot from
this period, although the vocals are rather distant. Pete
tells a very interesting and very "dirty" story
as an intro to "Musical Box." At the time of getting
this show I had never heard it before, but I have since heard
it on a couple of chronologically earlier gigs, above. Instead
of playing croquet as a child, the full grown Henry accidentally
becomes the father of a bunch of kittens, all of which have
his face. There are some unwanted bumps or hits or something
during the flute solo section of "Box," and some
feedback as well. Interestingly, there is a very short intro
story for "Supper," different from the usual one
where Michael goes to the park--it seems to just involve someone
yelling the phrase "supper's ready" for some reason.
There is a chunk missing from near the end of the song, starting
around "And it's Hello babe!..." and coming back
in around "...shedding ever-changing colours..."
The song also has a different ending to later versions--instead
of sort of petering out it comes to a nice loud satisfying
ending. Before the encore there's lots of cheering and the
tape seems to stop and start a lot as the taper tries to remove
the wait period. Then Pete comes on and toys with the audience,
asking for requests, and of course everyone yells "Knife!"
and of course they play it. This is a great show.
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01 Introduction (0:44)
02 Watcher of the Skies (8:15)
03 Intro: Box (2:38)
04 The Musical Box (10:42)
05 Intro: Friday (1:05)
06 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:10)
07 Intro: Supper (1:03)
08 Supper's Ready (22:17)
09 Intro: Hogweed (1:07)
10 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (9:27)
11 The Knife (8:59)
Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good
Comments: (I also have the BURP version of this gig--see
next entry.) At the Imperial College in London, this is the
PGWeed version of the famous (at least I call it famous) Violent
Dreams. One of my favorite Foxtrot gigs, I felt
it necessary to get a hold of this version, which I was sure
would be an upgrade. Well, I suppose I'm still calling it
an upgrade, but it is only a marginal improvement. The sound
here is probably crisper than its predecessor, and some of
the rough edits of the original recording have been smoothed
over (some of the beginning cheers and some of the crowd noise
between the last number and the encore have been totally removed),
but the clarity of the original has been slightly marred by
a touch of digital distortion running through the whole thing--introduced,
no doubt, in the "remastering" process. In some
ways I like the sound of Violent Dreams better, as
it seems to be less tampered with. However this is a clean
version, and to anyone who has not had the liberty to compare
both it will probably be an outstanding example of an early
bootleg. This PGWeed version is said to come from low-gen
tapes--it is not merely a remaster of Violent Dreams.
Clearly both came from the same original source however, since
the same strange bumps appear during "Musical Box,"
and the same cut is present near the end of "Supper's
Ready." If you haven't heard this show before, it is
certainly worth a listen.
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1 Watcher of the Skies (11:36)
2 The Musical Box (11:47)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (10:14)
4 Supper's Ready (23:25)
5 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (9:27)
6 The Knife (8:59)
Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good
Comments: At the Imperial College in London, this
is yet another remaster of the famous show. Clearly since
I rated it exactly the same as the PG Weed version, I guess
I didn't see a major improvement (it seems to have used the
PG Weed version as a direct source--the intro tracks have
been subsumed under the song tracks so that the tracking isn't
identical). I don't know, these remasters of shows from the
early Genesis period always sound too "doctored"
to me--Pete's voice sounds funky during "Watcher"
in particular--too high or something. Still, it's hard to
ruin this show. The story for "Box" is just great,
and this is the cool early version of "Supper" with
the rousing conclusion on the end. Of course there are still
the problems of the show itself and the recording: strange
thumpings possibly coming from the stage during an early instrumental
portion of "Musical Box," a cut in the opening of
the "As Sure As Eggs is Eggs" section of "Supper,"
and a particularly long and interesting narrative story for
"Hogweed" as Peter desperately plays for time.
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Philharmonic Hall (FAKE)
1 Supper's Ready (24:58)
2 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:35)
3 The Musical Box (10:00)
Comments: There are several misconceptions surrounding
this show, supposedly from one of Genesis' first concerts
in the US at the Philharmonic Hall in New York (I now have
the real thing--see next entry). I had steered clear from
this show for a long time because I had often come across
it on the Movement, where Simon labels it as a fake show coming
from one of the gigs from which the Live album was
taken. However I had read comments on other sites which either
did not mention or contradicted this claim. Seeing as how
I had almost every other Foxtrot boot there was, and
how such an important gig as the Philharmonic one was not
to be missed if it was real, I decided to grab a copy of this
It turns out that I should have trusted Simon. After careful
comparisons between my copy of the test pressing record and
this disc, I have decided quite firmly that this is merely
a reproduction of several songs from that record. Oddly, this
makes Simon's claim of its being from 24 February and Free
Trade Hall in Manchester incorrect, as all my information
tells me that the majority of the test pressing and the subsequent
Live album (excepting only "Hogweed") comes
from the De Montfort Hall show in Leicester on 25 February.
Still, he was pretty much right. These tracks sound quite
a bit different than their counterparts on other versions,
for several reasons: all of the in between stuff has been
cut out; the beginning two words of "Supper" and
the last few notes of "Box" are clipped off; the
sound quality is muddy and noisy; and the speed is too slow,
making Pete into a froggy vocalist (this is ignoring the additional
fact that the songs are in totally the wrong order). Basically
this is a terrible version of a great show. I carefully listened
to the vocals at the end of "Supper" and near the
end of "Friday" and I can state unequivocally that
they are identical to those on the Live album. I advise
all collectors to stay away from this show.
As a final note to add to the confusion, it has now been
shown that the Philharmonic gig should not be dated at 17
December. Many sites and references used to concur on this
date, but I heard information from a reliable source which
led me to question this date. So I swung by the Genesis Museum,
which boasts a nice scan of the original program for the famous
gig--the program clearly states the date as 13 December, not
17. Even more recently I happened to hear a radio interview
where they were discussing this gig, and the DJ went and checked
his concert calendar on air and found that the date was 13
December. And you'll find that Simon now lists the Philharmonic
gig on the 13th.
As a final, final, final note, I now understand why someone
would want to try to pass off this crappy material as the
Philharmonic show (other than the fact that it is a famous
gig): a hidden and complete recording is supposed to exist
of this gig. For now, it remains hidden, and since I just
don't have the clout to get hidden shows, unless somebody
is good enough to leak this recording, we will have to content
ourselves with dreaming about it and cursing the trickery
of people who would release shows like this trying to dupe
people into thinking they have something much more valuable
than they have.
On the good side, as mentioned earlier, I now have a nice
quality audience recording from the actual landmark gig, below.
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Philharmonic Hall '72
1 Watcher of the Skies (8:47)
2 The Musical Box (11:39)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (8:43)
Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good
Comments: At the Philharmonic in New York City, this
recording is the real McCoy: three complete songs from the
band's famous first concert in the United States. Shockingly
the quality is actually not bad, though Peter's vocals sound
far away compared to the rest of the band. What songs are
here are complete.
There is a bit of chatter as "Watcher" begins,
mainly the taper yelling at people to sit down; after that
it dies down. After the first number Peter says that he's
heard they judge bands in America by the number of encores
they play. "This is our first encore," he jokes,
telling a very short story for "Musical Box." Before
"Friday" he mentions that it is a social comment
number, because they had noticed that the bands doing social
comment were "making more money" than them. He goes
so far as to describe the part of the song where the real
estate developer wants to shrink people to fit more of them
in the same area (something I don't recall his having said
at any other gig).
It's very exciting to have this disc, partial as it is; the
fake version I have has always made me yearn to own the real
thing. Hopefully the "soundboard" recording of this
gig will see the light of day and I can add another entry
for this date.
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1 Watcher of the Skies (11:22)
2 Twilight Alehouse (7:37)
3 One-Handed Drum Solo (1:13)
4 Get 'em Out by Friday (10:40)
5 The Musical Box (11:04)
6 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (7:58)
Comments: Played at the Stadthalle, Heidelberg Germany,
this recording has been remastered by the Hogweeds Group as
HW 06--see next entry. This version is not that bad. The band
is introduced by some German guy. The drum solo track is actually
a very, very short solo, because whatever problem they were
having got cleared up. Phil only gets to play for about 30
seconds, if that. Another interesting feature of this show
was the appearance of "Twilight Alehouse," which
had basically been dropped out of the set by this tour and
appeared only very rarely. This is actually (as far as I know)
the last live recording of the song. I believe there is a
small hiccup during the intro for "Box"--the Hogweeds
version doesn't have that.
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02 Watcher of the Skies (8:13)
03 Intro: Alehouse (1:31)
04 Twilight Alehouse (8:15)
05 One-Handed Drum Solo (1:08)
06 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:12)
07 Intro: Box (1:27)
08 The Musical Box (11:03)
09 Intro: Hogweed (0:41)
10 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:29)
Comments: At the Stadthalle, Heidelberg Germany. I
was surprised when comparing my non-remastered disc to this
one, because to my ears they sounded nearly identical. My
ears must not be that good, because this is supposed to come
from a very good second generation source. Also various cleaning
up has been done. The sound is rather good, except for the
vocals, which sound very far away. There's a reverb going
on as well, which makes it difficult to tell what Pete is
saying on the intros. The drums and lead guitar are very strong
and crisp, however. It's very strange that "Supper"
is missing from this set; I used to think they didn't play
it because they were touring with other Charisma label bands
at this point and had to keep their set short, but according
to the official site the Charisma band gigs were from 3-29
October 1972, and were long over by this point. Also every
other Foxtrot boot from after October has "Supper"
but this one. I don't know why...
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1-1 Watcher of the Skies (10:26)
1-2 The Musical Box (11:36)
1-3 The Fountain of Salmacis (9:47)
1-4 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:00)
2-1 Supper's Ready (27:13)
2-2 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:49)
2-3 The Knife (9:30)
Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good
Comments: (See my upgrade, next entry.) Played at
the Palasport in Reggio Emilia, Italy, this is a very full
and surprisingly good quality show from the Foxtrot tour--one
of the best I have from this tour, in fact, I think. It is
also available in a one disc bootleg, entitled Refugee
(this is because before "Hogweed" there was
a problem which was covered up by the technician putting on
a tape of a song called "Refugee" by Van Der Graaf
Generator). Featured here is a very rare playing of "Salmacis"
from this tour--a song that was a regular of the previous
tour but had basically been taken out of the set by this time.
Also an early version of "Supper" that has a different
intro than the traditional Old Michael/Jerusalem Boogie story.
Here, Pete just says the inspiration for the song came from
hearing someone shout "Supper's Ready" at an odd
time of day (this is a slightly more elaborate version of
the intro provided for the song on Violent
Dreams). The song itself sounds a tad different in
several places than it eventually would sound--I don't think
they had quite ironed out how to play it live yet. Also at
this point in its evolution the song was played with a louder,
more finite ending than it would later have.
As I say, this recording really sounds quite good. Its volume
level is rather low, especially during the stories, but if
you crank your stereo you can hear it fine. The only problem
(and it is a small one) is that the taper seems to have been
a little under the weather, and cannot seem to help coughing
and clearing his throat every once in a while throughout the
show; it's possible that he or someone near him also translates
what Pete is saying into Italian. Some way into a very quiet
bit of the "Old King Cole" section of "Musical
Box" an over-excited fan utters a painful howl that I
initially mistook for a baby crying (which would have been
quite an odd thing at a Genesis concert). It's hard to tell
whether he was registering his esteem for the music or just
throwing up. Before "Hogweed" Tony seems to have
technical problems (as hinted earlier), but they clear up.
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Viva Italia! (PRRP020)
1-1 Watcher of the Skies (8:30)
1-2 Intro: Box (1:59)
1-3 The Musical Box (11:32)
1-4 The Fountain of Salmacis (8:43)
1-5 Intro: Friday (1:04)
1-6 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:01)
2-1 Intro: Supper (1:31)
2-2 Supper's Ready (23:48)
2-3 Intro: Hogweed (1:56)
2-4 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:42)
2-5 The Knife (9:34)
3-1 Watcher of the Skies (7:58)
3-2 Intro: Box (0:42)
3-3 The Musical Box (11:21)
3-4 The Fountain of Salmacis (8:09)
3-5 Intro: Supper (1:50)
3-6 Supper's Ready (23:54)
3-7 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:27)
3-8 The Knife (9:14)
Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good
Comments: This nice PRRP remaster combines two of
the best gigs of the Foxtrot tour into one 3-disc set.
Of course both take place in Italy, the Gabriel-era Genesis
stronghold. The first gig, played at the Palasport in Reggio
Emilia, is on the first two discs; the second gig, at another
Palasport in Rome, is on the third disc. Both of these came
from (probably) first-generation CD versions which were then
pretty considerably cleaned up. The second gig in particular
I think is quite an improvement over my other version (next
The first show is definitely one of my favorite old-school
Genesis gigs, and this version really has no problems. You
can still hear the taper cough a bit, as described in the
previous entry, but I barely noticed it on this listen--though
I did notice the terrible howl from the unnamed audience member
during "Box." Tony, again as mentioned above, has
problems before "Hogweed" resulting in a short humorous
The second show was a little more problematic, I think, with
more noises and artifacts which had to be removed or smoothed
over (see my older version, next entry, for all the noises
on the original!). The PRRP people did a nice job cleaning
it up and the result is very enjoyable to hear. "Watcher"
fades in, and a very few notes are missing. The guitar seems
very up-front in the mix. The beginning of Peter's story for
"Box" is cut. Peter makes a big deal about Phil's
"ding-a-ling" before "Supper"--he mentioned
this at the Reggio Emilia gig, but he milks it more this time.
My version still has pops on "The Knife." I don't
know whether this is common or not, but they are not intrusive
or many in number.
I'd definitely put this well-done remaster among my top Genesis
bootlegs--and I did! A
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1 Watcher of the Skies (8:07)
2 The Musical Box (11:25)
3 The Fountain of Salmacis (8:38)
4 Supper's Ready (25:18)
5 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:16)
6 The Knife (9:30)
Comments: (See the improved PRRP upgrade for this
gig, previous entry.) Played at the Palasport in Rome, Italy,
this show is very similar to its predecessor and just about
as good, even in quality. Many old versions of this bootleg
date it at 19 January, but it turns out that (according to
all sources I visited just now) the originally-scheduled Rome
gig for 19 Januaray was postponed to this date. There was
also a gig in Rome the day before (21/1), but the general
consensus seems to be that this is the 22/1 show. Anyway,
let's get away from that and talk about the show itself. It
has a hiss of varying strength, some breaks, some microphone
bumps, some clicks, some scratches, and the taper does lots
of shushing to his fellow audience members--in the process
making more noise on the recording than they are! Pete's vocals
are also kind of low, but for all that this show still gets
a "Good" from me, because damn it, it sounds good.
It's much less muddy than other Foxtrot gigs, and this
particular version was distributed by PGWeeds, a group dedicated
to releasing recordings featuring Peter Gabriel (its track
times match the boot for this gig on Simon's list which he
calls "Charisma Festival"). I have a remastered
version of the first PGWeed
release in my solo section.
The story for "Box" is only partially present here,
but is clearly the old croquet story. Most of the intros are
short, with some Italian--Pete didn't know much of the language
and didn't want to bore the audience telling them stories
they probably wouldn't understand anyway. This show has the
early version of "Supper's Ready" with a different,
more satisfying conclusion; before that number begins Pete
gets the audience to cheer Phil for his use of the triangle
(or "ding-a-ling"), just as he used to do before
they played "Twilight Alehouse" at earlier gigs.
It also has the earlier, much simpler story for "Supper."
Definitely one of the highlights of this tour, bootleg-wise.
An interesting variation of this show is seen on Halley's
list, where a boot for this date is listed which also has
a one-handed drum solo and "Twilight Alehouse" at
the end of the set. I think it's very unlikely that these
numbers were played that night, especially at the end of the
set, but Halley makes no mention of them being from a different
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1 Watcher of the Skies (9:06)
2 Intro: Box/Friday (3:18)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:44)
4 Intro: Supper (2:36)
5 Supper's Ready (24:23)
6 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:43)
7 Intro: Knife (0:40)
8 The Knife (1:48)
Comments: (I have several other versions of this show
below.) This is a fairly typical show from the Foxtrot
tour. There's some hiss, as this was transferred from
tape, and the volume is low. The vocals are distinct, however,
not muddy. Track two includes the intro for "The Musical
Box," but the song is cut and it proceeds right into
the intro for the next number. Pete says "Welcome to
the World of Genesis," and claims that the instruments
will be playing the parts of the musicians (for instance,
the part of Tony Banks is played by Michael Mellotron and
Steve Hackett is played by "Mr. Gary Gibson himself").
Interestingly, fans in the audience scream "Harold [the
Barrel]!!" a lot, especially before "Supper's Ready."
Phil responds to these cries: "Harold's a very (old?)
one, I'm afraid. Two minutes of silence for Harold."
Phil's comment hints that the song was not part of the set
anymore at this point. Pete totally messes up his whistling
of the "Jerusalem Boogie;" he makes two attempts
at it, and then gives up entirely. Perhaps it was mess-ups
like this that prompted them to introduce Phil's drum beat
in the back of the boogie--it is not present here. There is
a chunk missing from the beginning of "Supper,"
one or two lines from the first verse. There are some clicks
near the end of the "Lover's Leap" section, and
for some reason the keyboard build-up in "Apocalypse
in 9/8" was originally repeated on this disc (not by
the band; it's an error in the recording). I have since repaired
this error, and in the process removed some small, split second
pauses from between the tracks and upped the volume level
a tad. When it comes time for the encore number, the audience
members seem to be fighting with each other for which will
be played; some are still shouting "Harold!" while
others, more sensibly, scream "Knife!" This "Knife"
unfortunately ends very abruptly right in the middle of Pete
saying "Trafalgar." I now have a slightly more complete
and probably speed-corrected version of this show--as well
as the Squonk's Revival version (see next two entries).
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Rainbow Theatre (upgrade)
1 Watcher of the Skies (8:43)
2 The Musical Box (12:09)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (10:12)
4 Supper's Ready (25:10)
5 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:42)
6 The Knife (incomplete)(2:29)
Comments: At the Rainbow Theatre in London, this is
my own composite version of two bootlegs; it includes bits
of the previous version of this show, above, and bits from
another version I received much later. I learned once again
with this other version the hard lesson that there is no such
thing as a perfect bootleg. I had hoped upon receiving Rainbow
version 2 that it would be the full show, with "Musical Box"
(which my previous version was missing), and that it would
sound better. Well, it did have "Box," but it didn't sound
particularly better and it had bits missing that version 1
did not have missing. I was forced therefore to create a version
with bits from both. Now usually in these kinds of situations
I like to use as much from the same source as I can, to make
the show sound consistent. After much comparing of the two
versions, I decided to go with version two as my main source,
because I noticed pretty early on that my first version had
a speed problem. I can't imagine why I didn't notice it before
I got the second version, because it is perceptibly slow.
Version 2 appears to be at the correct speed, so wherever
possible I have used it.
Here's a run-down on version 2's characteristics and which
tracks come from which show. Version 2's sound is dull and
has a high-pitched hiss running through it. It also (very
unfortunately) originally had huge pauses in between the tracks.
There is a cut in "Box"--Pete sings "and the clock--tick-tock--"
and then the song cuts to the heavy guitar which comes directly
after he sings "the wall!"--but as this was the only version
of the song I had, I just have to live with that cut. The
end of "Friday" and the subsequent story for "Supper" are
totally missing for some reason, even though both versions
clearly come from the same audience source and version 1 has
these things. There was also a break and a possible hiccup
at the end of "Hogweed," and the entire incomplete version
of "The Knife" was lower in quality and depth than the rest
of the show.
So, what I've done is taken "Watcher," "Box," most of "Friday,"
and all of "Supper" (sans intro) from version 2, where the
speed was correct and there was a minimum of problems, and
it may just have sounded slightly better than version 1 quality-wise.
The end of "Friday," the intro story for "Supper," and the
last two numbers ("Hogweed" and the partial "Knife," which
is just as partial on both versions but sounded better on
version 1--same for "Hogweed") are all from version 1. I think
I can say in all honesty that you won't notice the splice
when the intro for "Supper" shifts into the actual song, and
apart from noticing the speed difference you probably won't
notice the shift back to version 1 for "Hogweed" and "Knife."
However the splice where the end of "Friday" (and I mean the
very end, just after Pete sings the last word, "Heaven!")
cuts in is rather obvious, because the speed difference between
the two shows causes a shift in pitch which is hard not to
notice. I did the best I could--I didn't want to use the whole
of "Friday" from version 1 because of the speed problem, but
I had to use some of it because version 2's "Friday" was cut.
Needless to say, the giant pauses of version 2 have been seamlessly
removed. Also in comparing my track lists for the two versions
you'll notice that I've chosen to not track the intro stories
separately from the songs--it seems I like it better that
All in all, with this new hybrid sourced version, this show
has become a more adequate and enjoyable Foxtrot gig.
It's complete except for the one cut in "Box" (which is small)
and the partial "Knife" (which is unfortunate), and Pete does
some nice, humorous intros. I'm proud of the work I did on
it. See the next entry for an alternate version of this recording,
which is still not ideal.
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Squonk's Revival 04
1 Introduction (0:50)
2 Watcher of the Skies (7:59)
3 Band Intro (1:50)
4 The Musical Box (9:55)
5 Intro: Friday (1:07)
6 Get 'em Out by Friday (8:51)
7 Supper's Ready (22:25)
8 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:05)
9 The Knife (incomplete)(3:09)
Comments: At the Rainbow Theatre in London. This is
a remaster of the old Rainbow material, but it is by no means
a perfect or "ultimate" version. Unfortunately,
the Squonk's Revival people seem to have been working with
a source recording which was not the best available. For instance,
Peter's story for "Supper's Ready" and Phil's comment
about "Harold the Barrel" before it are entirely
missing. After "Hogweed," the recording fades out.
Then on the last track it fades back in so that we hear the
very ending of "Hogweed" over again, and then the
calls for an encore, and then the typically incomplete "Knife"
(which admittedly has a few more seconds on here than on my
other versions). For some reason, this last track seems to
come from a higher generation source, and sounds worse than
the rest of the recording. I believe this was also true for
my original "version 2" of the Rainbow gig, which
I ended up replacing from my version 1 which had a better
sounding "Knife." This recording still has the cut
in "Box" around the "tick tock" part and
the cut in "Supper" right at the beginning that
all other versions seem to have.
My "upgrade" version, above, has some major hiss
running through it that this recording does not--in fact,
this one has no perceptible hiss at all, which is fairly impressive.
However, some might prefer the more "untreated"
sound which can make smaller details clearer. One trader at
least has told me he prefers my "upgrade" version
to this one. Mine is much louder and sounds less dull than
this one. It is also more complete! The problem with mine,
of course, is that it is patched together from various sources,
only one of which was speed-correct (the SR version does have
the advantage of not being too slow).
I considered melding this SR remaster with my upgrade, plugging
in the "Supper" intro and replacing the bad "Knife"
on this version--I came very close to doing it, but decided
that I would just end up with another patched-up show. I wish
someone like Hogweed would come along and get a good consistent
and complete source recording for this date. For now, I will
just have to keep multiple versions around.
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1 Watcher of the Skies (7:45)
2 Get 'em Out by Friday (8:54)
3 Supper's Ready (23:30)
4 The Musical Box (10:03)
5 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (7:59)
Comments: At the Guildhall in Plymouth. This is a
fairly ok recording which has been slaughtered by some very
crude editing (possibly in an attempt to cram it onto an LP,
possibly not). The show starts a bit into "Watcher,"
and all of the intros have been removed. It's quite possible
that the set is not in the correct order; indeed, "Box"
was usually earlier in the performance. Also I'm quite sure
the "Supper" is too slow, though none of the other
tracks seem to be affected. There is a cut and break near
the beginning of the bridge section in "Friday."
There is a rather large cut gouged out of the beginning of
the "Apocalypse" section of "Supper."
That song cuts off a bit before its actual end, going right
into "Box," which is missing its beginning notes
and starts at the first line of lyric. There is one loud,
short buzz near the beginning of "Hogweed." The
sound is muffled, but not horrible. What is here sounds pretty
good, but I wish it hadn't been messed with so much.
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1 Watcher of the Skies (8:21)
2 One-Handed Drum Solo/The Musical Box (16:23)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday/The Return of the Giant Hogweed
4 Supper's Ready (part 1)(14:39)
5 Supper's Ready (part 2)(incomplete)(3:42)
Comments: (See better version of this show below.)
At Green's Playhouse in Glasgow. This one is very muffled
and far away. It has also, as you can see, been tracked very
oddly. Pete tells a short, short intro for "Box,"
then it becomes clear that something has gone wrong as he
introduces a comedy skit involving Tony Banks and a roadie.
Phil pulls out his drum solo. There's an intro for "Friday,"
but after it there is a cut and the first couple of lines
of the song are missing. There is also a small break and cut
in the bridge of the song (very similar to the cut in the
previous entry's "Friday"--suspiciously similar,
but I still don't really think they're the same recording,
and Simon clearly doesn't think so). There is also a very
small cut at the end of "Hogweed." Finally, and
most unfortunately, the tape seems to have run out before
the end of "Supper"--the song enters the "Apocalypse"
section but then abruptly stops. I have a version below with
more of "Supper" and a bit more of some other parts
of the show.
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Green's Playhouse '73
1 Introduction (1:44)
2 Watcher of the Skies (8:57)
3 Intro: Box/One-Handed Drum Solo (5:02)
4 The Musical Box (11:36)
5 Intro: Friday (1:19)
6 Get 'em Out by Friday (8:50)
7 Intro: Supper (3:03)
8 Supper's Ready (incomplete)(20:58)
9 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:28)
Comments: At Green's Playhouse in Glasgow, Scotland.
This is an upgrade to the above version of this show. The
first version had quite a few cuts. This show has many of
the same cuts, but not as long. It also has a different ordering,
with "Hogweed" coming after "Supper." Simon has two versions
of this show, both with "Hogweed" before "Supper." However
I still believe that the order I have on this version is the
correct order, if only because every other Foxtrot gig had
"Hogweed" as the last number (ignoring of course the sometime
encore of "Knife"). This was the order in which the tape I
transferred this from had it (the tape also started with a
lot of audience cheering at the beginning, so I've kept it
on here as a separate track before "Watcher"). My
original version was tracked very oddly in the first place,
so I wouldn't be surprised if it was out of order. The cuts
in this version are as follows: the entire intro for "Friday"
seems intact, but the first couple of lines of the song are
missing. My first version had a cut in the middle of "Friday,"
but this one doesn't. The first version also had most of the
story for "Supper" cut out--this version has the whole story.
The first version cut off in the middle of the "Apocalypse"
section of "Supper"--this version does not cut off until the
end of the "Apocalypse" section; it's only really missing
the final "As Sure as Eggs is Eggs" section of the song. I
believe this may be the most complete version of "Supper"
available for this gig--though it is remotely possible that
the whole song exists somewhere. Both of my versions are missing
the first few notes of "Hogweed," and both have a tiny, tiny
cut near the end of "Hogweed"--it may even be just a big microphone
As for sound quality--this one is still not very good, but
I judge it to be slightly better than the first one. Its volume
level is lower than the first, but to fix that all you have
to do is increase the volume on your stereo. One of the reasons
I think this one sounds better is because in the first version
I could barely make out anything of the intros between songs,
but in this one I was more successful. Depending on what kind
of stereo you have and how much control you have over bass
and treble and such, you may be able to fiddle with this and
hear quite a bit of what Pete is saying. The sound could be
worse, and the only thing it really suffers from is an overall
muddiness which I believe is mainly caused by reverb. There
is surprisingly little hiss and none of the pitch drops or
speed shifting which can easily occur on older tapes like
the one this came from. The intros are pretty good, much like
those for the next gig and those found on the Leicester/Manchester
gigs. The intro for "Box" is of course augmented by Tony's
comedy sketch and by Pete's detailed play-by-play description
of Phil's "One-Handed Drum Solo." He seems to tell a pretty
good story for that, including Phil's training under a Russian
spastic and the limbs that Phil grew on different days of
his training. When they finally are ready to play "Box," Pete
says that it was a number "written especially for us by Donny
Osmond." The intro for "Friday" seems to include a description
of the actual subject matter of the song and the story of
John Pebble, but Pete also throws in the supposed underlying
metaphor, which is "the passionate story of a female butterfly
and a male Alsatian dog." He seems to have used this story
during this month of the tour.
The full intro for "Supper," which I had not heard on the
previous version (and probably hadn't even realized was missing
from it), is pretty standard and the wording for it is quite
similar to that used in gigs later in this month. Pete as
usual for this tour seems to have trouble with his whistling
and has to start twice. He manages to get out the closing
notes of the "Jerusalem Boogie," to fan applause. There is
no intro for "Hogweed"--it has probably been cut from the
recording. I'm really quite certain of the ordering on this
disc, since the end of "Friday" seems to go smoothly into
the beginning of "Supper," and the cut in "Supper" goes all
the way into the beginning notes of "Hogweed." It all fits.
You'll notice that the title I've supplied for this boot mentions
the venue instead of just saying "Glasgow '73." I did this
not only to differentiate this show from the previous one,
but also to differentiate it from the other bootleg that exists
of a Genesis gig in Glasgow in 1973. This other gig was during
the SEBTP tour and was played at the Apollo Theatre, not Green's
Playhouse. To remove confusion I've avoided having too many
shows named "Glasgow '73."
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1 Watcher of the Skies (8:19)
2 The Musical Box (including power failure and restart)(15:18)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (10:42)
4 Supper's Ready (23:53)
5 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (9:13)
6 The Knife (9:39)
Comments: (I have the SR remaster of this recording,
which is much better than this one, below.) At the City Hall
in Sheffield, this show came not long before the famous KBFH
gigs which would provide so much controversy and mythology
for Genesis fans everywhere by being bootlegged on the famous
double-LP on the Dutch Philips label. Thusly, this show is
rather similar in structure and in the intros which Pete puts
before the songs (he even uses the same, very rare story about
a dog and a butterfly before "Friday"). This show is, however,
much lower in quality. It is very, very muddy, muffled and
hissy. Because of this and probably some reverb, Pete's intros
are nearly indecipherable (unless you have a good idea of
what he's going to say in the first place). It does have the
unique occurence of "Musical Box" having to be restarted due
to a power failure. The band gets a little way in and then
the song just stops. Pete makes quips about a comical sketch,
probably involving a roadie. They almost go into a one-handed
drum solo, but then the problem is corrected and the song
starts again from the beginning.
In fact, even with the sub-par sound, this is a fairly interesting
show, and I might have been able to live with it ok if not
for the fact that it turned out to be littered with cuts.
Starting towards the second half of "Friday," where the recording
stops and starts before Pete sings the line about the announcement
from genetic control. Then comes "Supper," with the normal
Old Michael story (where Pete once again messes up his whistling--he
got much better at it during the SEBTP tour, thank God) but
with a lot of cuts. I will detail them: there's a small one
in the beginning of "Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man" section,
a big one in the middle of "Ikhnaton and Itsacon," and a third
one in the "Aching Men's Feet" section, near its beginning.
The track may also end before the song is quite over.
Then comes "Hogweed," where about halfway through the song
the recording fades out. It comes in and out several times
after that before steadying again and finishing out. "Knife"
miraculously has no cuts. So this is not exactly a totally
unlistenable show, and it has at least one unique occurence
which makes it worth it; but not what you'd call a "good"
bootleg by any means.
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Sheffield '73 (SR06)
1-1 Watcher of the Skies (8:19)
1-2 Intro: Box (1:21)
1-3 The Musical Box (false start)(3:03)
1-4 The Musical Box (11:07)
1-5 Intro: Friday (1:33)
1-6 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:35)
1-7 Intro: Supper (2:54)
1-8 Supper's Ready (Lover's Leap to Guaranteed Eternal
2-1 Supper's Ready (Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man
to As Sure as Eggs is Eggs)(17:51)
2-2 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (9:29)
2-3 The Knife (9:25)
Comments: At the City Hall in Sheffield, this is an
interesting upgrade to the above show, which (in its original
form, above) I complained about rather mercilessly. This particular
version seems to be from Squonk's Revival (SR), and this is
their sixth release. The muddiness that I disliked so much
about the first version has been ameliorated somewhat here.
Pete's voice is easier to make out, making the stories that
much more enjoyable and understandable (nice to hear Pete's
quip after the power failure that ruins their first take of
"Musical Box": "That was a little shorter than
the version on the album").
In the original version I had, "Friday" stopped
and started--I did not notice that happening in this version.
Strangely, my copy of this SR release, unlike others I've
seen, has been split over two discs rather than keeping to
one--also, it is split right in the middle of "Supper's
Ready." In my other version, I had detailed several cuts
in this song. I mentioned one small one occuring in the "Sanctuary
Man" section; it was a very, very small cut, and the
SR version does not have it. The SR version does not really
have a cut as such in this section, but the first disc does
cut off right in the middle of it (right before Pete is about
to say "Look into my mouth"). The second disc comes
back in at exactly the point where the first cut off, but
is rather wavery--the sound takes some time to recover. In
another odd difference, there is a large cut in the "Ikhnaton
and Itsacon" section on my original version, but no cut
on the SR version. Both versions have the same cut in the
final section of the song, however, so that the lyrics go
from "your loving arms" to "Like the river
joins the ocean..." Also as in the original version,
the SR version has a cut in the middle of "Hogweed"
(and "Supper" goes immediately into "Hogweed").
Really though this is a very impressive upgrade. It has fewer
cuts and better sound than my previous version. Some day I
may make it better by putting the whole thing on one disc,
but other than that, this show is a pleasant surprise, as
I never would have thought a better show could be gotten out
of this recording.
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Caught by the Watcher
1 Watcher of the Skies (incomplete)(6:19)
Comments: At the University Great Hall in York, this
startlingly incomplete show ironically rounds out my collection
of Foxtrot shows. I was uninterested in obtaining this
show because of the fact that it only consists of part of
one song ("Watcher" cuts off very abruptly just
as Pete is starting to sing the last line: "This is your
fa--"), but it is a curiosity and a humorous example
of what can go wrong when you try to tape a show--and as I
say, with it I now have every known recorded date from this
tour (apart from the hidden shows, of course--there's at least
one). The speed of the recording is a bit slow, the sound
is a bit crackly and unstable, but it could be worse: what
we have here is the beginnings of what would have been a fairly
typical and probably not all that bad Foxtrot show.
There are some microphone bumps to be heard, but not many,
and mostly toward the beginning. As Simon describes this show,
there is "what sounds like a struggle" as some individual
attempts to capture the deviant wickedly trying to record
music. Given this description, I was hoping to be entertained
by the resounding thuds of a fist fight, or cries of "Hey,
give that back!" or "Give me that tape recorder,
you jerk!" just before the cut-off of the recording.
But I was greatly disappointed. Aside from some unintelligible
remark from an audience member well before the cut in the
tape, I heard nothing that sounded like a struggle. This led
me to suspect the ridiculous idea that someone has created
a "fake" version of this show, by simply taking
a "Watcher" from some other show and cutting it
off at the right track time. But on consideration this is
probably not the case, and Simon has simply heard something
on this disc that I have not.
Notice how, even with a one-track disc of 6:19, I can take
up a good solid paragraph blathering about it. That's skill
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of You Are Going to Die
1 Supper's Ready (26:00)
2 Watcher of the Skies (8:24)
3 The Musical Box (10:45)
4 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:47)
5 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:35)
6 The Knife (9:35)
Type/Quality: Radio/Very Good-Good
Comments: As far as I can tell, this bootleg is as
close as any bootleg will ever come to being the famed test
pressing of the double LP version of Genesis Live (though
see the next two entries, which are upgrades to this one).
Certainly tracks 2-6 are the exact versions from the officially
released live album, but with Pete's stories intact and with
some pops and crackles and slightly muffled sound (almost
definitely this was transferred from vinyl). And this version
includes the coveted live "Supper's Ready." These
tracks are in the order they would have been played, except
"Supper," which should come right before "Hogweed."
Some people label this boot as being entirely from De Montfort
Hall in Leicester (25/2), but as in the official Live album,
all of these songs are from Leicester except "Hogweed,"
which is from the 24/2 gig at the Free Trade Hall in Manchester.
Recent evidence I have heard leads me to believe this is
in actuality a copy of the Dutch Philips label test pressing
of Live. The test pressing is most likely just that;
the Live album in a very early stage of development,
pressed in anticipation of a radio airing which (probably)
never took place. Of course, I don't know this for sure, it's
just a theory I've heard from a reliable source. See my Mysteries
page for a bit more info on this. It's worth noting that Pete
tells a fairly rare and pretty funny story before "Get
'em Out by Friday," which was cruelly edited out of the
official release (along with all of the other stories, though
they are somewhat more present here).
Test Pressing Remaster
1 Watcher of the Skies (8:43)
2 The Musical Box (11:10)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (10:06)
4 Intro: Supper (2:45)
5 Supper's Ready (24:15)
6 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (9:28) (24/2/73)
7 The Knife (9:51)
Type/Quality: Radio/Very Good
Comments: At the De Montfort Hall in Leicester, except
track 6, which is from the Free Trade Hall in Manchester.
This is another form of that Holy Grail of Genesis relics,
the test pressing of the Live album (see next entry
for the ideal version). This one puts the songs in the right
order and sounds quite a bit better than the version above
(though due to my less than perfect rating system, I could
only put it up one small step in quality), with much less
hiss and not as much noise. There are still quite a few pops
to be heard, however, especially at the beginning of the recording
and during quieter bits. There are split second pauses on
my version, but you'll probably never know it since each track
fades out at the end and fades in at the beginning.
It's worth it to hear this gig in this form, rather than
the more polished official release version. You get more of
Pete's wonderful intros and you also get the almighty "Supper's
Ready." Interesting to note that even though more in
between stuff is here, not all of the stories are in. For
instance, the story for "Box" is notably absent,
and there is clearly something missing before "Hogweed,"
as the track comes in with Pete talking about someone named
Tim. Possibly this may be related to a technical problem the
band were having--Pete had a habit of naming and describing
the roadies who came on stage to fix such glitches. One wonders
just how much had been done to this soundboard recording when
it got to this test pressing stage--some mixing has been done,
but are there studio overdubs? I don't have the patience to
do a careful comparison between the final product (the Live
album) and this version, but I am curious as to what the
results of such a study would be.
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Live at Leicester and Manchester
(TM Productions GEN730225TM)
1 Watcher of the Skies (8:56)
2 The Musical Box (11:33)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (11:42)
4 Supper's Ready (24:16)
5 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (9:05) (24/2/73)
6 The Knife (9:28)
Type/Quality: Soundboard/Very Good-Excellent
Comments: At the De Montfort Hall in Leicester except
for track 5, taken from the Free Trade Hall show in Manchester.
This is the TM remaster of the famous Dutch Test Pressing.
It's time to take all your other versions, including the official
Live album, and just throw them in the garbage! That's
how good this version is. There are no more vinyl pops or
scratches. Sound quality is close to official, since this
is a pre-FM source, and this is as complete a recording as
is available of this material (the story for "Box"
is still missing). A triumph! The only possible criticism
I might have is that the transitions between tracks seem a
bit abrupt. (Please note that I wrote this review after having
drank my second cup of Dunkin Donuts coffee of the day, so
I may have been a bit more effusive than is absolutely necessary.)
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Genesis Quebec City
1 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:45)
2 The Musical Box (12:08)
3 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:35)
4 Supper's Ready (24:18)
Comments: (See next entry for an upgraded version
of this.) Played at the Grand Theatre in Quebec City. I'd
like to start out by saying that this is incomplete. That
is, compared to other boots of this show, which seem to also
have "Watcher of the Skies" and "The Knife"--the
correct beginning and ending songs, respectively. Also this
boot is not in the usual order--in other versions that I've
seen, "Box" precedes "Friday." Pete speaks
in French. I have been told that this version of the boot
was transferred directly from a vinyl bootleg with the title
I have given above. I assume the vinyl factor is the reason
why the show is missing a couple of songs--the disc totals
54:46, which must be pretty near the limit for what an LP
can hold (though I have to admit, being a CD/tape guy, I don't
really know for sure). Its tracking edits sound very similar
to those on my Marquee Club boot from this tour. Not all of
the intros have been taken out, but definitely the beginning
of "Supper"'s story is missing. "Friday"
has a short intro, and "Box"'s story is told in
a mix of English and French which Pete calls "Franglais."
The "Supper" story comes in when Pete is talking
about the surface of the park being filled with worms--he
messes up the phrase "swarming worms." He also messes
up his Jerusalem Boogie whistle.
Apart from the fact that this show is incomplete and out
of order, it isn't so bad! The sound quality is fairly good.
It has some hiss and some pops, but actually is low on the
noise, especially for a vinyl transfer. It does have a hiccup
which I have not bothered to repair: the end of "Box"
is repeated at the beginning of the next track. There is one
other annoying problem, which comes in at the end of the "Apocalypse"
section of "Supper"--clicks. They repeat for a while
over top of the music, but go away before the song ends. Not
the best of boots; see the next entry for an improved version.
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1 Watcher of the Skies (8:02)
2 The Musical Box (11:56)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:41)
4 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:09)
5 The Knife (9:31)
6 Supper's Ready (25:35)
Comments: Played at the Grand Theatre in Quebec. I
finally got my hands on this upgrade version, which I'd been
looking for for some time, which has two more songs than the
above entry and has less vinyl noise on it. There are pops,
and there is some hiss, and the sound gets a bit rough during
louder bits, but this is one of the better Foxtrot boots
out there. There was originally a strange type of hiccup in
"Hogweed" which resulted in a cut, but fortunately
I was able to splice in a corrected section from the other
version of this show, so that this is now a corrected version.
There are some strange volume flutters in the opening organ
intro for "Watcher." The volume jumps to a fuller
volume, but flutters back and forth for a while before settling
back down to a lower volume. This happens a few times. There
are also general volume fluctuations throughout the show,
but of a more normal type: smoother and probably due to the
taper moving his microhpone (the flutters in "Watcher"
actually sound like they might be a problem with Tony's keyboard--though
if so, you'd think they'd have stopped the song).
Unlike the original version I had of this, this version seems
to have all the intros intact. The full "Supper"
story is here. Pete does kind of mess up the whistling, but
not as much as he did on other performances. He doesn't bother
whistling the whole phrase from the hymn that he usually did,
though. Both versions of this show have an unfortunate but
very small break at the end of the "Willow Farm"
section. A great improvement on my original boot is the lack
of clicks at the end of "Supper"--that song sounds
fine. It may fade off just the slightest bit early; in that
case it is just like its counterpart.
As a last note, I'd like to say that I still question the
track ordering here. I believe that the correct placing of
"Supper" in the set is before "Hogweed."
This is the way the band generally played the set on this
tour, and I think that it was rearranged somewhere along the
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Paris Radio '73
1 Watcher of the Skies (8:21)
2 The Musical Box (10:45)
3 Get 'em Out by Friday (9:21)
4 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:33)
5 The Knife (incomplete)(8:10)
6 Supper's Ready (partial)(2:06)
Comments: One of the rare radio shows from this tour,
and coming near its end, at the Olympia Theatre in Paris.
This is not a good radio show really. In fact, I'd venture
to say that it's easily one of the worst radio shows I've
ever heard--although even with that it's still better than
most audience shows from this tour. There is incredible hiss
on this recording, sometimes accompanied by a high-pitched,
almost dog-whistle type of tone. It sounds as if the band
were playing next to a minor waterfall. This is also supplemented
by various static and fumbling noises (especially near the
beginning of "The Knife"), which makes me believe that the
show was recorded by someone who simply stuck a recorder next
to their radio, and proceeded to adjust the microphone/recorder
from time to time during the broadcast. This surmise has been
confirmed by at least one other web site's comments. The recording
also jitters near the end of "Watcher," coming off and on
and off and on during the last sung line of the song.
As for the broadcast itself, it came over AM radio and features
a French announcer. I could slap this French announcer. If
I knew his address, and if he was still living, I would buy
plane tickets, have a nice holiday in France, and before getting
on the plane again to go home to America I would come to his
house, knock on the door, and if he answered it, I would slap
him in the face and then run away. He talks way too much.
He talks over almost the entire organ solo beginning "Watcher."
He talks over all of Pete's intros. All of them! You don't
hear a single word of Pete's in between talks, except maybe
the very end where he says something like "This is 'Get 'em
Out by Friday.'" In fact, on my original version of this the
announcer's jabber after "Friday" was actually repeated! In
this version I have mercifully removed the duplication.
One interesting thing about this show is that "The Knife"
is somewhat incomplete. It gets rather near the end, then
slowly starts fading away, and actually crossfades into the
beginning of "Supper's Ready." This is a very incomplete "Supper;"
in fact it's only the first section of the song, and cuts
off very abruptly after Pete sings "It's been a long, long
time." There are several different versions of the Paris radio
show, and not all of them have this strange chunk of "Supper."
It's possible that it's from a different source/gig, although
if so that gig must also have been radio or soundboard.
In conclusion, not a great show but an interesting one, and
though not a good radio show, still a radio show. Worth a
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Reading Festival '73
1 Watcher of the Skies (7:31)
2 Supper's Ready (22:34)
3 The Return of the Giant Hogweed (8:24)
4 The Musical Box (11:53)
Comments: At the Reading Festival of 1973, this is
considered the very last gig of the Foxtrot tour. In
fact this is probably the last time the song "Hogweed"
was ever played live. The sound leaves a bit to be desired.
The recording starts a bit into the organ intro for "Watcher."
It's fuzzy, and has a few pops and a few breaks--one after
"Watcher." That particular break is a sign that
the intro for "Supper" has been cut--all the other
intros are here. There is a rather loud hum in the background
of certain songs. At the beginning of "Supper,"
it sounds very much as though someone in the audience is kicking
a can. There is a small cut in the "Ikhnaton and Itsacon"
section of that song. The mix of this recording is interesting--some
parts of the music can be heard very clearly, whereas others
have been almost totally drowned out--somehow or other the
drums seem to have been almost removed in places. "Supper"
seems to fade out too early, but crowd noise covers it, almost
like a studio fade-out had been cleverly hidden.
An interesting discovery I made while listening to this disc
is that the songs are out of order. One familiar with the
band's set would realize right off that it's very strange
to have "Supper" as the second number and "Box"
as the last one, and in fact if you listen to the beginning
of "Box" you can tell that it should actually be
the second number. Pete greets the audience and says that
this is the last time the band will "muddle through"
their old set. My feeling is that the only ordering problem
is that "Box" should be moved up to track two and
everything else moved down, leaving "Hogweed" as
the last number (as it usually was).
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